Wikilivres:Possible copyright violations

(English)  Please add here possible copyright violations in Canada. Wikilivres:Delete.

(Français)  Ajoutez ici des violations possibles du droit d’auteur au Canada.

(简体中文)  请在此加入在加拿大可能的侵犯版权。

(正（繁）體中文)  請在此加入在加拿大可能的侵犯版權。

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2010

Je voudrais pas crever

• Je voudrais pas crever, Je voudrais pas crever (poème), and Quand j’aurai du vent dans mon crâne by French writer, poet and musician Boris Vian who died in 1959 were posthumously published in 1962. If France is the source country, it is still copyrighted there, then Canadian term applies. I am afraid that we have to wait for 2013 if no permission in Canada.--Jusjih 03:56, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes you are right, but I am not entirely agree. The poems of Boris Vian were also songs that were publicly widely performed by himself (and others) in his lifetime. A public performance normally means a publication see here :
“Publication” is the distribution of copies or phonorecords of a work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending. The offering to distribute copies or phonorecords to a group of persons for purposes of further distribution, public performance, or public display, constitutes publication. A public performance or display of a work does not of itself constitute publication.
To perform or display a work “publicly” means —
(1) to perform or display it at a place open to the public or at any place where a substantial number of persons outside of a normal circle of a family and its social acquaintances is gathered; or
(2) to transmit or otherwise communicate a performance or display of the work to a place specified by clause (1) or to the public, by means of any device or process, whether the members of the public capable of receiving the performance or display receive it in the same place or in separate places and at the same time or at different times.
Dmitrismirnov 09:56, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Concerning the Canadian law it would probably be good to find the difference between public performance and performer's performance as discussed here. I'm really not sure about this. -jkb- 10:59, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Since this has been hanging here for so long, and the stated period is due to expire at the end of this year anyway, I'm inclined to let these stay. But nothing more from thiuis collection should be added before the end of the year. Eclecticology 02:48, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Structure of knowledge (Kouznetsov)

Hello, I wonder why this would be in the public domain in Canada. Any idea? Yann 11:47, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Neither the English source nor the Russian one say something about PD or CC, thus copyrighted, I guess. -jkb- 23:29, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

http://www.ils.uec.ac.jp/~dima/PAPERS/ cites

http://www.ils.uec.ac.jp/~dima/PAPERS/2010mestoelic.txt that reads:

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By this document I confirm that I know that my article entitled

"Place of science in the human knowledge"

currently posted at

http://www.ils.uec.ac.jp/~dima/PAPERS/2010mestoe.pdf

is used in the derivative works

"Knowledge" posted at http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Knowledge

and

"Structure of knowledge"

http://wikilivres.info/wiki/Structure_of_knowledge_%28Kouznetsov%29

and I allow its free use and modification while the original

source and the authorship are attributed.

2010 July 1, Dmirtrii Kouznetsov.

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This allows not only to keep (and mofidy) the English version discucced, but also to load the Russian version. Domitori 02:14, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

OK. But: the source given here in Wikilivres (...2010mestoe.pdf) gives no hints on the matter (and that was why this question arosed here), further, the copy in Wikilivres and in the source (...2010mestoe.pdf - which is copyrighted) is not identical (thus should not be given here as source); the two sources given in ...2010mestoelic.txt are Wikilivres and en.citizendium.org, so that the source given in Wikilivres should probably be en.citizendium.org (if they are identical); the licence in Wikilivres should be notified (although I do not know if we use copyleft or something similar like GFDL or CC-BY-...), then it will be OK. -jkb- 08:21, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

I think, any of GFDL, CC-BY-... is suitable for wikilivres; but where to put it, to the main text? Domitori 10:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Probably CC-BY-SA would be OK. But first this should be cleared: what is the source of the text published now in Wikilivres? As far as I can see this is the only one derivated version, even the another "free" text on http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Knowledge differs from the text here. The source that is given now (http://www.ils.uec.ac.jp/~dima/PAPERS/2010mestoe.pdf) cannot be a source as the text there differs much more from that one here and more over - the text is copyrighted. The problem is: Wikilivres cannot be the source for Wikilivres :-)... Might be somebody else will help here with a opinion - can Wikilivres publish a not formerly published derivated text although the author allows it?? Let us wait a bit, -jkb- 11:54, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

All the Kuznetsov material seems to have unclear licensing. Even when derivatives are allowed the "BY" aspect of a CC licence suggests that we be able to trace a text to its origins. Any modifications to that text should not operate to misrepresent the intentions of the original writer; responsibility for any derivatives should be made clear. I propose to delete all Kuznetsove material that does not have clear licensing. Eclecticology 13:54, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

• Deleted Eclecticology 16:03, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

边城

Written in 1934 by an author who died in 1988 without copyright permission, along with 边城/卷00, 边城/卷01, 边城/卷02, 边城/卷03, 边城/卷04, 边城/卷05, 边城/卷06, 边城/卷07, 边城/卷08. I asked the contributor for any proof of licensing.--Jusjih 23:28, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

• Deleted all.--Jusjih 22:04, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Les Montagnes hallucinées

Jacques Papy est né en 1908, et était actif dans les années 60. Marc 11:06, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

http://lccn.loc.gov/74860963 suggests that he was still active in 1970. Thus Papy's work will not be in the public domain before 2021, and it could be later. Eclecticology 02:12, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, we have to delete this work. Yann 05:48, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

2011

All works tagged Template:宣言 and Template:中国大陆宣言

These Chinese "public" manifestos are without evident copyright licenses while many Chinese users disrespect copyright laws. Even English Wikisource strictly controls what can be brought here and tagged Template:Manifesto. I am holding a remote discussion at zh.ws:Wikisource:加拿大Wikilivres#遙控提刪.--Jusjih 02:19, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

La Ferme des animaux and 1984

Traduit par Jean Queval (1913-1990). Marc 06:54, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

Delete if no copyright permission for the French translation.--Jusjih 13:18, 20 April 2011 (EDT)

Oh bad! Where did you find this information? Yann 11:55, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

I have a french edition of this book and the text is the same. See wikipedia for fr.wp:Jean Queval. ebooksgratuits is not always reliable and it seems 1984 must be deleted too. Marc 04:31, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Deleted. For 1984, I could find the translator's date of death, so I would keep it unless the editor complains. Yann 15:55, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

Amélie Audiberti (née Elisabeth Savane) renewed her US copyright in 1977. This suggests that she was still alive then. Eclecticology 06:22, 23 May 2012 (EDT)

1984 Deleted. Eclecticology 23:05, 28 June 2012 (EDT)

Anna Akhmatova

Morte en 1966. Placer ses traductions sous licence creative commons pourrait bien aussi être un abus. Marc 09:13, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

I do not think that we need to delete this page completely. There are plenty of her work written and published before 1933. What about these? and in 5 years she will be PD Canada...Dmitrismirnov 13:09, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

I don’t understand what you mean by « before 1933 ». It seems to me that it is forbiden to publish here works of authors died since less than 50 years. Marc

Sorry, I mean "published before 1st of January 1923" - that is in PD in USA Dmitrismirnov 07:12, 19 April 2011 (EDT)

These texts must be deleted and published on wikisource, in this case. Marc 06:48, 20 April 2011 (EDT)

Yes, it would be possible to publish such texts in English on English Wikisource. However we can't publish these Russian texts on Russian wikisource, because Russian wikisource follows the law of Russian Federation that differs from the US law. They do not accept "published before 1st of January 1923" as PD. But here in Wikilivres, as I think, it is possible. And we have to ask Yann for his opinion on this matter. Dmitrismirnov 10:16, 20 April 2011 (EDT)

This is too bad that we can’t publish these texts on Russian wikisource. But it is impossible to publish here authors who died since less than 50 years, because Canadian laws are the rules we must follow on Wikilivres. Marc 06:21, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Pre-1917 works published in Russia are not protected under Canadian copyright since Russian empire was not a "treaty country" (see article 5. (1) of the Copyright Act and commons:Template:PD-RusEmpire). --M5 16:37, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Well, works published before 1917 must be published on Wikisource. But we are talking about authors who died after 1960 ; they have often published between 1917 and 1960... Marc 03:31, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

Akhmatova's first three books were published before 1917. Therefore we should keep the author's page and remove only post-1917 works. --M5 05:24, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

Ok, then, we should do that. Marc 04:58, 24 April 2011 (EDT)

Old Wikisource can provisionally host works that are unacceptable here and Russian Wikisource, i.e. pre-1923 and still copyright-restricted in Canada and Russia.--Jusjih 22:45, 9 April 2012 (EDT)

Keep Under the old Soviet law Akhmatova's works went into the public domain at the end of 1991. The changes that went into effect in 1992 were not applied retroactively. Retroactivity was introduced with the 1993 law. This raises an interesting question about the application of the Canadian rule of the shorter term. I would argue that her works went into the Canadian public domain at the end of 1991 too. The Canadian copyright status was established at that time. A later Russian law to impose retroactivity would have no effect in Canada. Eclecticology 16:43, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Herbert M. Shelton, 1895-1985 Герберт Шелтон. Ортотрофия: основы правильного питания

This is a double breach of rights of the author and translator: Russian publication 1992. (Ортотрофия : Основы правильного питания /Пер. с англ. и предисл. Л. Владимирского.— М. : Мол. гвардия, 1992. — 351 [1] с, ил.—) Dmitrismirnov 08:48, 23 May 2011 (EDT)

Deleted. Yann 15:22, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

2012

The Little Prince

The original French is clearly in the public domain, but the translator, Katherine Woods died in 1968.

Oh, I did not find her date of death. Sadly, to be deleted. Yann 11:51, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

For Маленький принц and Письмо заложнику the translator Nora Gal died in 1991.

For the Spanish El Principito and the Interlingua Le Parve Prince the translators appear to still be alive. Eclecticology 05:18, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

I have a permission from the Spanish translator. Yann 11:51, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

I can trust your judgement on this, but in a few years this will be seen by someone who knows neither of us. Do we have any way of documenting these licences to satisfy those who deal with the problem in the future? Eclecticology 14:07, 25 May 2012 (EDT)

Der Kleine Prinz had two translators. Grete Leitgeb died in 2002 (age 99). This translation will not be in the public domain in Canada until 2053, 2073 in the European Union. Eclecticology 14:20, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

Here also, I could not find the date of death of this second translator. The first one died more than 50 years ago. Sadly, to be deleted. Yann 11:51, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

Works of Мамедов, Джаббар Манаф оглы

This material is taken from a 2010 publication with no indication that the author has granted a free licence. Eclecticology 13:36, 15 May 2012 (EDT)

Является ли c=const доказанным? written by Мамедов, Джаббар Манаф оглы - I deleted the last page by your request, but probably here is no copyright violation if the author inteded to publish it here under FREE license. We need to discuss this with the user who placed this article. Dmitrismirnov 13:50, 15 May 2012 (EDT)

Possible violations of copyright

• Летучие звёзды (Честертон/Бернштейн) - Translator Inna Bernstein (1929 — )(still alive)
• Скандальное происшествие с отцом Брауном (Честертон/Бернштейн) - Translator Inna Bernstein (1929 — ). Russian translator (still alive)

-- Dmitrismirnov 06:24, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

• • Agreed. These can be deleted after adequate time for comments. Eclecticology 14:58, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

Translator Inna Chezhegova (1929 — 1990)

• Из Теофиля Готье
  • По дороге к монастырю Мирафлорес
• Из Франсиско де Кеведо
  • Обречённый страдать без отдыха и срока
  • Река, переполняемая слезами влюблённого, да не останется равнодушной к его скорби
  • Пусть кончится жестокая война, которую ведёт со мной любовь
  • Любовь с первого взгляда рождается, живёт, растёт и становится вечной
  • Рассуждения, с помощью которых доказывается, что можно любить сразу двоих
  • Источая скорбные жалобы, влюблённый предостерегает Лиси, что её раскаяние будет напрасным, когда её красота увянет
  • Пусть все узнают, сколь постоянна моя любовь
  • Сонет, в котором содержится суждение о сходстве любви и ручья
  • Сонет, в коем влюблённый преувеличивает свой любовный пыл, отчаяние, вздохи и мучения
  • Сонет, в котором объясняется досадное непостоянство любовных тревог
  • Определение любви
  • Безмолвная любовь

This are possible violations of translator's rights. -- Dmitrismirnov 06:24, 24 May 2012 (EDT)--

• • • Agreed as above. Eclecticology 15:02, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

Translator Anatoly Yakobson (1935 — 1978)

• Кармен (Готье/Якобсон)
• Ужин доспехов (Готье/Якобсон)
• Крик (Лорка/Якобсон) Dmitrismirnov 13:04, 25 May 2012 (EDT)
  • Agreed. Eclecticology 14:12, 25 May 2012 (EDT)

A. S. Kline translations

Osip Mandelstam (1891 — 1938)

• Stone
  • Ears stretch sensitive sails
  • From the pool of light, suddenly
  • More sluggish the snowy hive
  • On the pale-blue enamel
  • Only to read childrens' books
  • The sound, muffled, cautious
• Poems of Various Years
  • The freshly cut ears

Only CC-BY-NC License. It would be reasonable to wait a bit with a deletion until possible solution will be found - a site where these could be placed... Dmitrismirnov 11:21, 27 May 2012 (EDT)

Absolutely. With anything nominated here I have no difficulty in waiting for a month before deleting. There are possibly alternative translations for Mendelstam which could be accepted here. Kline already has his own website for publishing his material. Eclecticology 18:33, 27 May 2012 (EDT)

Efim Etkind (1918 — 1999). Russian writer, poet and translator

• Одно прошу: не избегай меня (Брехт/Эткинд)
• О пьесе Шекспира «Гамлет» (Брехт/Эткинд)
• Радость начала (Брехт/Эткинд)
• Скверное время для поэзии (Брехт/Эткинд)
• Сонет в эмиграции (Брехт/Эткинд)
• Шведский пейзаж (Брехт/Эткинд)

possible violations of translator's rights. -- Dmitrismirnov 18:23, 28 May 2012 (EDT)

• • Agreed. Eclecticology 15:14, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

Boris Dubin (b. 31 December 1946)

• Мажорно-белая симфония (Готье/Дубин)
• Слепой (Готье/Дубин)

possible violations of translator's rights. -- Dmitrismirnov 05:46, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

• • Agreed Eclecticology 15:15, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

Yuri Korneev (1921 — 1995). Russian poet and translator

• Четверостишие, написанное Вийоном после приговора к повешению (Вийон/Корнеев)
• К Шекспиру
• Эпитафия университетскому вознице
• Песнь о Нибелунгах

--Dmitrismirnov 17:50, 30 May 2012 (EDT)

Maria Lorie (1904 — 1992). Russian translator

• Дебют Тильди
• Исповедь юмориста
• Неоконченный рассказ
• Прагматизм чистейшей воды (О. Генри)

--Dmitrismirnov 06:12, 31 May 2012 (EDT)

Eugenia Kalashnikova (1906 — 1976). Russian translator

• Дары волхвов
• Персики

--Dmitrismirnov 06:37, 31 May 2012 (EDT)

Alexander Galich (1918 — 1977). Poète, dramaturge et compositeur russe.

• Памяти Б. Л. Пастернака
• Заклинание Добра и Зла
• Песня об Отчем доме
• Опыт ностальгии
• Опыт отчаянья
• Неоконченная песня
• Ночной дозор
• Ошибка (Мы похоронены где-то под Нарвой…)
• Я выбираю Свободу
• Поэма о Сталине (Размышление о бегунах на длинные дистанции)

--Dmitrismirnov 07:09, 31 May 2012 (EDT)

Le Bateau ivre

• Пьяный корабль (Рембо)
• Пьяный корабль — перевод Владимира Набокова, опубл. 1928
• Пьяный корабль — перевод Павла Антокольского, после 1945
• Пьяный корабль — перевод Леонида Мартынова, опубл. 1974
• Пьяный корабль — перевод Михаила Кудинова, опубл. 1982
• Пьяный корабль — перевод Давида Самойлова, опубл. 1984
• Пьяный корабль — перевод Александра Голембы, опубл. 1998
• Пьяный корабль — перевод Андрея Кроткова, опубл. 2002

--Dmitrismirnov 10:52, 1 June 2012 (EDT)

God Interview (Blinov)

Also Petrov Solzhenitsyn (Blinov). There is no indication whatsoever of the author’s permission, or that the material has previously appeared in print. Eclecticology 15:37, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

Влесова книга (Лесной)

These pages can be deleted as Possible copyright violations

• Влесова книга (Лесной)

* [[Влесова книга (Лесной)/1

• [[Влесова книга (Лесной)/2

* [[Влесова книга (Лесной)/3 * [[Влесова книга (Лесной)/4 * [[Влесова книга (Лесной)/5 * [[Влесова книга (Лесной)/6 * [[Влесова книга (Лесной)/7 * Влесова книга (Лесной)/8 * Влесова книга (Лесной)/История находки дощечек Изенбека и их судьба * Влесова книга (Лесной)/От автора * Влесова книга (Лесной)/Первые публикации текстов и исследования * Влесова книга (Лесной)/Подлинность дощечек Изенбека * Влесова книга (Лесной)/Предисловие к тексту * Влесова книга (Лесной)/Что представляли собой дощечки Изенбека * Велесова книга * Велесова книга/Документ № 2 * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за декабрь 1953 года * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за декабрь 1959 года * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за июль 1959 года * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за май 1959 года * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за март 1958 года * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за ноябрь 1953 года

• Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за октябрь 1957 года

* Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за октябрь 1958 года * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за сентябрь 1953 года * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за сентябрь 1954 года * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за сентябрь 1957 года * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за февраль 1954 года * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за февраль 1955 года * Велесова книга/Жар-Птица за январь 1954 года * Велесова книга/Русская жизнь за 3 апреля 1954 года

Dmitrismirnov 10:44, 2 July 2012 (EDT)